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Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Candidates and Minority Roots. Mormonism, Roma, Not

Minority Matters. Religious, Ethnic.
Any Minority.
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Romany, Romney, Roma. Assimilation.
Ongoing:  Opportunity Issues for the Non-Assimilated
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The beginning is a question: Where a candidate has a possibly Roma name, and an actual Mormon religious affiliation, was there or is there a tie between Roma (vernacular "Gypsy"), and converts to Mormonism, in Europe (especially England) and here.  Does where we came from, and who made it possible, stay with us. When speculating leads to a deeper interest in ethnic groups and history, is speculation worthwhile. See http://www.gypsiesroma.blogspot.com/#!http://gypsiesroma.blogspot.com/2012/01/rom-survival-role-of-secrecy-surname.html
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Evidence is ambiguous, as always.  Words change, people blend. Find Saxon roots in Rumenea, now Romney, in Kent, England. See http://sassafrasthicket.blogspot.com/#!/2012/01/steered-by-navels-and-surnames-what-if.html.  An interest is in how many converted from Roma to Mormon, in England and here.  No information on that other than a reference to gypsies out west, see http://gypsyjib.wetpaint.com/page/Arrival+of+Gypsies+in+America. But we do see connections by surname, to that ethnic group, see the Romany Marsh, Romney Marsh now, located in Kent, see http://englandroadways.blogspot.com/#!/2012/01/cumbria-sheffield-immigration-19th-c-to.htm.  Then again, there are other roots of the sound of that word, including the Saxon, above.
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But, if Romany assimilated long ago, we would not.  We find a specific connection to the name Romney to the Romney Marshes of Kent, where the site also identifies the area as Romany Marshes.  And -- as is also true of many of our forebears, a smuggler's haven.  See this fair use reference:
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The Romany Marshes:
With some of the closest towns and villages to France, on the coast and with miles of isolated beaches and fields, the Romany Marshes made an ideal base from which smugglers operated.
See http://www.infobarrel.com/History_of_Romney_Marsh_kent
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Read more: http://www.infobarrel.com/History_of_Romney_Marsh_kent#ixzz1jC93nxlv
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There were such converts from Romani to Mormonism, and some completely assimilated, others adopted this practice or belief or that, or not at all (contact with non-Roma is penalized), as with any other group in contact with another, see the Other Religions section at http://www.radoc.net/radoc.php?doc=art_b_history_romanireligion&lang=en&articles=true.
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In particular, there were Mormon missionaries in England in the mid 19th Century, so the pathway was there.  Look to the past. What were Mormons,  before they became Mormon. Study Mormonism. And study the religions of the Roma, Romani, Travelers.  Overview of religion, customs, history, at http://www.radoc.net/radoc.php?doc=art_b_history_romanireligion&lang=en&articles=true.  Christian Romany are many, but not in the fixed church buildings. The concepts are there. Romani first encountered Christianity in Anatolia, as they moved out of the way of the Ottomans -- see site.  In 1568, however, Pope Pius banished them. Nonetheless, Romani are found in the predominant religion of any area. Specific families? No way to know, so far.
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For an overview of Travelers or Roma in England, see the BBC at http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/voices/history_intro.shtml. Language: Romany, Romanes. With poor conditions for working people, Mormon missionaries offered a new way of life, convert and come to America, see http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/immig_emig/england/south_yorkshire/article_1.shtml, and continue to the specific Mormon references in pages following. Did Roma or Travelers also become attracted to the Mormons. How to find records of that?  As to any connection, only the name Romney, now prominent Mormon, is a surface similarity to Roma, Romany, Rom'nie.
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Or is the name merely Welsh. http://www.thinkbabynames.com/search/1/welsh/5. But Travelers also were, and are,  throughout Wales. See http://wales.gov.uk/topics/housingandcommunity/communitycohesion/gypsytravellers/?lang=en; see also http://welshmormonhistory.org/index.php?/tasks/article/
There also is a Romney Marsh, a place beloved by smugglers, see http://www.askshepway.com/history/romney-marsh/; and a breed of sheep that do well there, despite the wet.
  • So far, no proof of Romney as Romany, but interesting to look.  Whatever the origin of the name, it is unlikely that a known gypsy or traveler family would have been welcomed into mainstream Christian circles, see the history of rejection, persecution, and being forbidden to participate in church activities in much of Europe.
  • Would Mormons, themselves under attack, treat them differently, more welcoming as the large numbers of immigrants were eased over to America as Mormons,
  • Christian rejection -- see  http://www.chgs.umn.edu/histories/victims/romaSinti/gypsies2.html.
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1. Ancestry dabbling.  Yes, there was a substantial Traveler community at Cumbria, where Miles Romney born 1806 was from. So, things are indeed possible but not firmed up. Door is open, but no reason to keep it open for much longer.
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So far, we track the Mitt Romney ancestry to England, where Miles Romney lived (from Dalton-in-Furness or Futness? 1806) http://www.our-genealogy.com/Latter-Day-Saint-Families/Romney-Family/ancestry-romney/miles_romney.htm.  That is in Cumbria, the old Dalton or Daltune from medieval days. He and his wife Elizabeth Gaskell heard a Mormon missionary in 1837 and converted and came to America, see  http://www.our-genealogy.com/Latter-Day-Saint-Families/Romney-Family/ancestry-romney/miles_park_romney.htm
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Converted from what? What ethnic, religious background? There is just statement of "middle class." No idea, and that middle class reference conflicts with other BBC site statistics that largely poor and working class converted. So still open is any connection of that Romney family with any minority or other-class group. Just the name, sounding Romanichal, Rom'nie.  Miles had a son, Miles Park Romney, etc. and all that is online.
Go back. Look up traveler community at Dalton, Daltune? Cumbria? Try both.  Find Romany families mentioned, http://www.golakes.co.uk/Dalton-in-Furness-Dalton-in-Furness/details/?dms=13&feature=1&venue=5052102&easi=true. Their term. There is something:  Cumbria has been home since 1685 to a roma-gypsy horse fair, now famous, see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10214236. There was, then, a gypsy or traveler population there.  This site takes the Romney name back, still this Dalton connection, further: http://www.nwemail.co.uk/memories/us-republican-politician-mitt-romney-s-dalton-heritage-goes-back-to-1642-1.907821?referrerPath=home. George Romney born 1781, another George Romney born 1738, and Thomas Romney born 1709.

So, surely somebody would have noted where the name came from if it were Romany, but did people have to register by that group identification, or just be in churches like anybody else.  England? Help out here?  Wikipedia starts with Miles here, little information. When did Travelers first get to England? 1500's? Yes, see Church Network for Gypsies and Travelers,  http://www.cngt.org.uk/serv02.htm. Go, England. Turn back the gears.

  • Romany Fair.  That large fair is known as the Appleby Horse Fair, and is an event of the traveling community.  It attracted 40,000 people last year. Gypsy travelers came from around the world. See "Romany" families, and Romany is their word, sounds like Romney doesnt it? at http://www.visitcumbria.com/events/appleby-fair.htm.  Romany Romney.

Now comes a kind of mother-lode.  Site for American Romanichals - http://americanromanichals.webeden.co.uk/. Spend time there, especially with the old newspaper and photo galleries. But if Romney born 1806 converted prior to passage to the US, he would not be listed? And did I see Miles Ronney and not Romney?  Need birth records, marriage records then, that might show if any Romany is part of our Romney.  I'm done. Somebody else do that.
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2.  Finding a link may inform our immigration issues, that loom these days.  If a candidate derives, even from long ago, from a disadvantaged group where some prospered, but many were left out, we would like to know.  If religious beliefs were part of a background, we want to know.  Our own are also as iffy, for those who are consistent in analysis. The name of the candidate, Romney, is examined elsewhere, and reviewed here, see http://www.gypsiesroma.blogspot.com/2011/04/candidate-romney-immigration-policy-of.html.  
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3.  American Gypsies

What was life like, even if our particular Romneys were not ever, or eariler converted from Romanichal, in England. Many emigrated, and from oppressive conditions, see http://americanromanichals.webeden.co.uk.

Minorities enrich us.  Research turned up early sources, including "American Gypsy" from 1917, and now online.  
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Welcome the idea of researching the past in connection with present people. What did we find. Explore roots of ethnic minorities with our current prominent Mormons, here Mitt Romney. Recognizing Immigrant Pasts. Do they shape our present. Roma, Gypsy, Romani, Rom'nie, Romanichal, Rom. Is Romney "gypsy?" We hope so. Time to highlight a group too often forked, ignored.  There is no census box for Roma.
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Some Roma we already know and love: Charlie Chaplin, Elvis Presley.
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America is enriched by a strong tradition of highly successful Roma. Gypsy populations are here in many forms, discernible from surnames, cultural groups, practices, and range from earlier nomadic groups, to the well-settled and highly prosperous. See http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/migrations/gyp/gypstart.html .
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Celebrate their contributions, and look to reinstalling the rungs back in the ladders that helped any earlier minority group to climb as it would. Romney as a Roma, Romnichel, Gypsy President? Roma, Romanichal, Rom'nie, Rom, http://www.reocities.com/Paris/5121/glossary.htm#R.Would that be our first? Somebody go research. Would people dare to use that, if it is so, to say that he is un-American? Many of our ancestors passed from one group to another, more favorably situated. The American Way.
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 First, information needed. Much more information. We will ask Joseph Smith chroniclers, and the stories behind the Book of Abraham, for example. Mormon.
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I.  Information about American Gypsies (Roma)
     A.  Sources
     B.  Roma Successes (find economic prosperity in many areas including New England, and in New York State where Mormonism began; and Charlie Chaplin, and Elvis). Note many groupings, Sinti, Romnichal, etc.
     C.  Arrival - from the start of our nation
     D. Would Mormonism be connected? see Joseph Smith, texts, stories, language
        1.  The word "Mormon" - origins, etymology
        2.  Belief system - recently, rituals women found offensive were removed -- as late as 1990.  I am not sure of the status of prohibition on blacks who can't be priests (just as women are treated in mainstream some religions, ain't allowed to be priests, ah, interpretation after the fact). Do they so believe? Why? Ask Mitt.
        3.  Original texts that Joseph Smith is said to have translated. None survived. We are left with "interpretation" and one "translation".  How to vet? What might support validity for The Book of Abraham, for example, despite some saying it was Joseph Smith's imagination. Parts maybe yes, parts maybe no. Evidence gone. There are references to Ogham language/letter symbols, like runes? What supports Joseph Smith? We find things.
II.  Welcoming immigration information; would some doors open wider?
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I. Information about American Gypsies.
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A.  Sources.
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A new one to us is the 1917 volume by a first-hand researcher who described American Gypsies and their cultures. See online book American Gypsies, by Albert Thomas Sinclair.
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This old book offers a glimpse back in time. Come away with a new appreciation for our fellow immigrants, language, how they lived, and their economic prosperity in many areas.  FN 1. 
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See also http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16358/16358-h/16358-h.htm">http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16358/16358-h/16358-h.htm>
  This is a longer online book, but gives a wealth of information on language, background.
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The prosperity of those New England - New York groups, however, is in contrast to others in this country in their virtually invisible poverty; and the poverty and persecution of those abroad, visible every day.  See http://www.chgs.umn.edu/histories/victims/romaSinti/gypsies.html.
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Minority assimilation. If minorities anywhere remain economically disadvantaged, is that their fault as flawed humans; or have vital rungs been put out of reach, the ladder distorted.
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B.  Successes - Roma in New England, New York State, Louisiana, coastal south, nomadic groups elsewhere.  Information:  Patrin, http://www.utoledo.edu/library/carlson/exhibits/DX2009/patrin.html
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For individual success stories, find Elvis Presley, Charlie Chaplin, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4lR-oZ09_g  Here, we look at other American Gypsies, and the book of that name from 1917, online, see American Gypsies, by Albert Thomas Sinclair.  Find many examples of the success of the gypsy (we now would say "Roma" or "Traveler", probably) population in New England and New York especially. 
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That is a possible connection, because Upstate New York, Palmyra, was where Mormonism began, see http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/m/mormons_church_of_jesus_christ_of_latterday_saints/index.html?scp=1&sq=Mormon%20Book%20of%20Abraham&st=cse.  And Palmyra NY was where a 177-year old edition of the Book of Mormon was found and auctioned off in 2007.  Joseph Smith was from Palmyra, NY, see http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/nyregion/20mormon.html?ref=mormonschurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints.  And on to the midwest and west.  And Canada. And elsewhere. Other names include Romnichal, Rom'nie, Rom, Roma, Romani, Romanichal.
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Prosperity.
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Some Roma did well, it appears, in New England. Read this excerpt, fair use concerning the prosperity of some gypsies (modern term would be Roma) from chapter 13 of American Gypsies: .
" ***** Many have accumulated handsome properties. In Boston,
Somerville, Fall River, Providence, Worcester, Hartford, New Haven, Spring- field, in New England, and in many other cities of the Union, Gypsies own real estate, free and clear, worth from twenty to a hundred thousand dollars. Many have thousands of dollars in ready money, and some are money-lenders. I have full details of such cases. The very large proportion are temperate, much more so than formerly, I think. They are nearly always on good terms with every-one who comes in contact with them, and the old prejudice against their race has largely disappeared. *****"
C.  Arrival
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How did they get here?  On their own, or see chapter 17, in American Gypsy, history of "Egyptians" conscripted as labor from the Caribbean and British Isles, settler groups in Louisiana, etc. Find an overview of origins.  Also go back to the Gutenberg book, The English Gipsies and their Language, Chapter X, Gipsies in Egypt. See http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16358/16358-h/16358-h.htm.  Not so far fetched.
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Note that the US does not categorize people by ethnicity, but by country of origin, and so there is no "Gypsy" category at all.  Very easy to forget uncounted people. See an outdated 1981 site, we find more on prosperous gypsies than are represented there:  http://www.trivia-library.com/b/people-races-ethnicity-in-the-u-s-gypsy-americans.htm
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D.  Would Mormonism be connected, see Joseph Smith, texts, stories, locations. Would this be a "fit" for Roma, as other aspects of Christianity had been and probably remained.
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1.   "Mormon"
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We are still researching the name "Mormon" in ways other than the transposition of letters as was customary in secret languages, including our own pig latin.  The Book of Mormon, Mormon being the name of the prophet in question, see http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_did_the_Mormons_come_from.
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Is it more? We look at language, customs, see this site for British Travelers, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16358/16358-h/16358-h.htm. Do a search there for "secret writing" and find the practice of simply transposing letters. That topic is in many sources. Mormon - Mor - Rom, ah the imagination does enjoy its own frolic.
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Where else the name Mormon? Keep looking. Etymology: Joseph Smith himself coined the name from English "more" and the Egyptian (?) "mon", meaning "good.". See that at http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=mormon&searchmode=none. That makes little sense.  More good?  More persuasive is the common custom of word reversal, Rom to Mor, and add the Mon for Mor Mon.  Gypsy Good.  Sherlock, here we go.


2.  Belief system.  Everybody's has rocky parts.
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We know that Joseph Smith had his visions in about 1821. His background is patchwork, and sites go to extremes each way in which episodes to stress, as with any prominent founder of any system. See http://www.cephas-library.com/mormon/mormon_200th_birthday.html; http://www.cifs.org.au/MORMON.pdf
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As to the Roma belief system itself, there is no "one".  Roma have their own imprimatur on Christianity, and other belief systems. See St. Mary's in Gdansk, Poland and the Gypsy tradition of Sara la Kali, see http://polandroadways.blogspot.com/2007/09/gdansk-church-of-saint-mary-black.html#!/2007/09/gdansk-church-of-saint-mary-black.html.  Mainstream religious idea origins have been part of Roma or gypsies, including Roman Catholicism, and often with to varying extents and customs, as with any other group.
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Did they adopt Mormon beliefs?
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That takes more work here. Beyond me. Need to go back to Palmyra NY records where Joseph Smith started Mormnism, and document the gypsy population and then who converted, if any.
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At least, Mormonism's basic theological ground, apparently predating hte Book of Mormon, the Book of Abraham (is that so?), would not have been a turn-off; and with ethnic connections to how it was found, and its origins (is this a stretch? read on), the compatibility likelihood rises.  And many Roma were already Christian, with an expected range of Christian-like baptism and Christian belief systems, among their own rituals. See also in France, http://www.languedoc-france.info/030701a_st_sara.htm.  Fundamentalist Revival Christians have found a welcome as well, see http://www.marshallindependent.com/page/content.detail/id/530808/Gypsies--part-IV.html?nav=5007
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3.  Original texts.  A fragment of the Book of Abraham survived, see http://www.irr.org/mit/boa-papyrus-scroll.html. Interpretation without the original otherwise rules.
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Joseph Smith's Golden Tablets; Book of Mormon; Book of Abraham 1835, later apparently disavowed by the group; and roots.  We just have the "translations"
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a.  Texts. 

What did they say, apart from what Joseph Smith said they said. Texts do not define a religion.  Interpretation do. And interpretation engrained in custom makes the culture itself difficult to change. Some here raise as many hackles as similar treatment of women and blacks to in our other cultural and religious aspects.
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Interpretations and customs can change with the times, however, see Mormon rituals that women found offensive were only recently removed in 1990, see http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/03/us/mormons-drop-rites-opposed-by-women.html
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Golden Tablets were translated by Joseph Smith, into the now Book of Mormon. Do we have it straight? see http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/m/mormons_church_of_jesus_christ_of_latterday_saints/index.html?scp=1&sq=Mormon%20Book%20of%20Abraham&st=cse. The tablets
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b.  Theology. What is the connection of the Book of Mormon with something called the Book of Abraham? Find that, at least as of 1970, at http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00B11F8385C107B93C1A9178ED85F448785F9&scp=1&sq=%22Book%20of%20Abraham%22%20mummy&st=cse.  Parts have been dismissed as imagined by Joseph Smith, such as the exclusion of blacks from priesthood at the time, see article (status of issue? as of 1970, it had been reaffirmed).
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In 1912, the Book of Abraham was of great interest, see http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70914F83A5D13738DDDA00A94DA415B828DF1D3&scp=2&sq=%22Book%20of%20Abraham%22%20mummy&st=cse. So, if the mummy was imagined as well, what is the status of the Book of Abraham? Who followed up on that? Old Egyptian originals, translation imagined?  This is out of our league.  All theological claims should be carefully vetted against sources and against later cultural shapings, so we forge on.
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c. Given the disclaimers as to mere imagination, why should we accept that?  It is too easy.  So we ask what would weigh in on the side of Joseph Smith, supporting his claims, and not mere "imagination." There are elements, laid out like in a filing cabinet, for reference.
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It was allegedly translated by Joseph Smith as far as it got (the translation is incomplete), from Egyptian papyrii, obtained through a traveling road show, with Egyptian mummies, and from an itinerant entertainment group (that in itself sounds Roma?)?  See http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_bkab.htm. See also an encyclopedic-type recounting at http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Book_of_Abraham.
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The reference to Egypt again is interesting, and to the employment of some of them in carnivals. Gyptians? That connection of Gypsies to Egypt is apparently an erroneous one, http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/Gypsy-Americans.html, but a belief in it at the time would have given some credibility to the source of the text?
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There is, however, credibility to the story of the origin of the papyrus: how it got there, and the letter-word forms. Since the original did not survive, we only have a "translation" and that in part, and translations always vary (that's why we always want the earliest, most untoyed-with text, of course).

d.  Ogham.

The language of the Book of Abraham, central text of Mormonism, is said to be "Ogam" or Occam.  From that, Joseph Smith did his translation. 
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The word itself suggests the Ogham, the Ogham script of long ago, see http://www.omniglot.com/writing/irish.htm of ancient (4th-6th Centuries in Ireland)  Irish, Welsh, British writing; and even from the Sinai BC, see http://www.flavinscorner.com/excerpt.htm
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Runes of earlier cultures evolved into the stick form of Futhark, taking the language forms back and back and back, but also with overtones of gypsy use. See The Secret Languages of Ireland. Journal of the Gypsy Lore Society (new series). 2: 241-246.
27) Macalister, R. A. S. 1937, cited at http://web.archive.org/web/20041015002435/http://www.flavinscorner.com/reviews.htm.  That is a click away from the home page at http://www.flavinscorner.com/excerpt.htm
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Now somebody go back and find the original Book of Abraham and let's see what runes, Ogham, symbols are used.  How to get at that?  Or is it all trust in the "translation"? Christians trust their translations, when it serves their ends, regardless of original texts, so why not Mormons? Websites address the issue, see LDS at http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Abraham.shtml. Satisfied?  The Bible itself contains only selected sources, a compromise of sorts. Interesting.  The original text, however, with the original script, for either set of texts in Mormonism, but at least the oldest Paleo-Hebrew is, to check against later cultural intentional misinterpretations.
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Either way, Roma or Traveler roots go back to our own origins as a country; and the traveler-roma connection is not unfeasible.  Websites: American Roma at  http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/index.html;
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II.  Recognition of the past. 

Reconcile old religious and secular customs with the newer, include the more traditionally considered fringe, and find areas of common humanity.  We propose an effort to learn more of this ethnic group, and their heritage.  If Mr. Romney has a connection with Roma, Romnichal, etc.,  this would be a positive for immigration issues generally.
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Given the success of Roma as laid out in New England in American Gypsy from 1917, and if Mitt Romney is of that background as the name suggests, why not take pride in it and the open-door up-the-ladder tradition of America?
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It should be no pejorative to have Roma in a background, given their success in assimilation, if they assimilated (many have not) and contribution on their own. 
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Question for all successful persons, especially candidates.
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Ask now, in this election year, of every candidate, for the sake of others still disadvantaged, and other minorities, what has happened to the rungs. 
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For those who have not assimilated, what are the health and education needs.  Many keep the low profile of groups persecuted elsewhere, and nearby, see http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2025316,00.html.  Do opportunity ladders now lack rungs.
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From there, go back to candidate Romney, whose family has been successful, and with strong New England roots, among other places. Romanichals or Romnichals were English Roma, for example, see http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/index.html It sounds like solid Roma roots, building up of propertied estates, all that.
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What, if any, minority group has substantially benefited from his or her largesse, whose interests he has fostered for the common good, and not through the church and not for ideology or proselytizing?
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Is the business profit margin maximization, the party image, always the core belief, allegiance?  Here and abroad, look at the need: http://www.osi.hu/iep/minorities/ResBook1/Growing.htm
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There are always rocky parts of origins.  Own them and move on.
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Origins help explain a course, but do not define it now. Turning to Mormonism may have had nothing to do with Joseph Smith.  If the Romney family was among those prosperous ones referred to in American Gypsies, they might not have been disaffected at all as a reason to convert. Needed: cultural recognition of this group, not on our census forms, but in the blood of many.
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FN 1  Follow-ups, in the nature of an ongoing filing cabinet

a. We are also interested because of the surname "Romney" with its every appearance of Roma, Rom'nie, Romnichal, Romanichal, Rom origins, and someone who wants to pay Ancestry.com to research back to the family's original conversion is welcome to do so. Remember, though, that any ancestry site puts up whatever anyone puts in - A Wiki kind of operation - so get-vet the documentation, not the mere conclusion or statement.
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b. American Gypsies:
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There are accounts of gypsy conversion in the online American Gypsies, at 7. Scroll down for "Mormons", see chapter 7 there. The book cites so far gypsy populations in Mt. Desert, Maine and East Somerville, and Allston, Massachusetts, Western Massachusetts, New York (I am reading it bit by bit). The woman noted at page 7 was probably in Utah, but may well not have composed that letter home, as its piety was not in her usual tone, but conversions do spur greater commitments?
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c.  And, of course, the Broadway gypsy robe ceremony, see http://www.actorsequity.org/aboutequity/gypsyrobe/gypsyrobehome.asp
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d.  A natural fit.  Many in the Roma population -- there are many groups, and the languages also differ -- are Christian-oriented. See American Gypsy at 8, so moving to a Christian-appearing group would not be a stretch.  For overall Roma topics, see Gypsies, Roma, Romani
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e. Other surnames
Try Romney.  The Rom, Rom'nie, Travelers. FN 1 Romanichal -- English Travelers.  See http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/index.html
Assimilation for many was not difficult. It could have been for survival. Travelers, we are told, often adopt the religion of the culture where they come to live, see this United Kingdom site, http://www.wsh.nhs.uk/ServicesAtoZ/CorporateServices/Chaplaincy/DirectoryofInformationonFaithsandCultures/TravellerGypsies.aspx
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As in Alice in Wonderland, ask the giant caterpillar, Who R U. How you respond informs us as to our vote.  So far, we see a coldly analytic approach to giving. Some people are categorized as "dogs" dragging down the system.  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/us/politics/how-harvard-shaped-mitt-romney.html?scp=1&sq=Romney%20analytical%20family%20church&st=cse. Minorities might ask, are those among the ones where the rungs have been removed? why? obviously to protect the status who climbed those rungs and got up there when the rungs were in place. Is that so? Right or rung?
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Pedigree:  So far, people only want to see the glam.  What has been left out?  See http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/republican-candidates-have-presidential-pedigrees/?scp=1&sq=Romney%20geneology%20founders&st=cse.  Ancestry has a bent to the glam.
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Romney, are you Rom?  If so, go to it, let us rejoice in your success, and we look forward to your helping your brethren.  America has many.  See http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/migrations/gyp/gypstart.html. And a film, see http://www.americangypsy.com/the_film/full_description.html.  Do your tax returns show giving other than to the church? Do they help gypsies? Your candidacy may well depend on compassion, not profits while overseeing layoffs. 

Monday, December 5, 2011

Tracking Warbucks. Occupy the Contracts. Is the 1 percent 99 per cent Warbucks Generated.

Tracking Warbucks.
Update boosted by Rachel Maddow's book, Drift
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-rachel-maddow-20120412,0,6610008.story
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War Fortunes and Where They Went
How do Contracts Influence War Decisions?
Occupy the Contracts.
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Inordinate War returns for the 1 percent?
 Rebate to the rest of us, or let profits dictate War.
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What is a bail-out?
Can the government bail itself out
 for long-term goals, through payments to needed industries?
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The influence of war contracts.  To what extent are they a push to war, just because the materiel has been contracted for. War Pearl Harbor an act that is heinous, or predictable because we ourselves put our assets there as a lure because we had all those contracts and materiel, and we asked for it. Perhaps we misjudged the total impact of a strike; but how stupid could we be, than to put our fleet in one harbor. 
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What element of the current 1 percent derives from war contracts, bailouts of businesses still in depression, that coat-tailed out on grounds of "national need."  If those now holding those fortunes did not themselves earn it, why are they entitled to keep it at the expense of the 99 percent?
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Ask:  Government contracts, buttressing of what it needs,  as bailout. Who is being bailed out? The nation is.  Not just a company. 
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What "need" was there in April-June 1941 to justify the defense contracts.  Did those contracts in themselves make going to war a certainty.  what else to do with all those products.
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A.  Companies on the contracts lists even before Pearl Harbor.
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Colt as a company name did not fare well over time.  Its money went elsewhere.
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Others also diminished as a company name.  But what fortunes were enabled by warfare, who amassed what, and where are they now.  Does our currently spotlighted hyper-privileged 1 percent contain mostly warbucks-derivative fortunes. No? How to find out what extent, if any. We ask because we are told that the nation's 1percent represent earners, job-creators, hard workers who put in the time to make the dime.  Is that so? Or are they second, third generations down the line, feeling entitled, who got a fine educational and cultural head start through war fortunes for their own line.
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B.  We start with WWII, before Pearl Harbor.
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Why before Pearl Harbor?  We thought we were taken by surprise, and were shocked, shocked? What decisions had already been made, by whom, why, and with what determinative result.
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1.  June 28, 1941. 
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The nation is looking for a way out of the Depression, and Washington has more on its mind, but not a different issue: a way out.  Washington is casting more than a merely wary eye to warfare elsewhere at that time.  Sudden war-type contracts: the Defense Department in overdrive.
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Visit the New York Times: June 28, 1941 -- six months before Pearl Harbor.
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Look at the war prep going on at that early date, in that one day alone in appropriations. Did the war department then have to look for an excuse to use it all? Was Pearl Harbor allowed to happen, gasp? Had the decision for war already been made, and only public opinion needed to be jolted to follow suit.  See Army's Contracts in Day $17,310,990, at http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive/pdf?res=F30E11FB3E5F1A7A93CAAB178DD85F458485F9
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June 28, 1941 was not the first big appropriations day. Eleanor Roosevelt wrote about entering the war or not on that day, critical of the wording of a congressman's query to the public on the issue, see http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2011/06/eleanor-roosevelt-liveblogs-world-war-ii-june-28-1941.html;  the US Army Bill for 1942 was passed, see http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/jun41/f28jun41.htm; and German and Romanian soldiers kill 11,000 Jews, and Germany occupies Poland, http://www.historyorb.com/date/1941/june/28
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2.  April 5, 1941.  Earlier.
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 Further and earlier defense department contracts were awarded by both Army and Navy months beforehand, on April 5, 1941, including many of the same manufacturers' names, such as the relatively small (at the time) Union Hardware in Torrington Ct,  and its cleaning rods, see list below and http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10D10FB3A59167B93C7A9178FD85F458485F9&scp=7&sq=Union%20Hardware%20Torrington&st=csehttp://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive/pdf?res=F10D10FB3A59167B9C7A9178FD85F458485F9.  See the day from different perspectives, including the government suing the AMA, see http://newstalgia.crooksandliars.com/gordonskene/april-5-1941-war-and-socialized-medici.  With a URL "crooksandliars" it is difficult to even cite it seriously, but the issue is interesting. Find a more comprehensive April 1941 timeline at http://ibiblio.org/pha/timeline/4104int.html
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And September 30, 1939 --
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More, but not designated Army or Navy contracts, just "supply," see http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10914F63C5A11728DDDA90B94D1405B898FF1D3&scp=10&sq=Union%20Hardware%20Torrington&st=cse.  See the day:  http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/sep39/f30sep39.htm
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B.  How did those contract recipients fare in the long term.
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If people made fortunes off government contracts, and are now in the 1 percent, they owe something to the 99 percent, is that so, and how to measure, if to do that.  Occupy the contracts?
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Beyond the anticipatory expenses for a desired war (what to do with those products if we decided not to go to war?)  we are interested in tracking the suddenly accumulating wealth of the recipient companies.  Union Hardware, for example, finally merged with somebody else in 1960 or so, see http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50F16F93E5E1A7A93C7A8178AD85F448685F9&scp=9&sq=Union%20Hardware%20Torrington&st=cse, Were those contracts really bailouts in the context of a recalcitrant Depression, in the sense of government saving-graces regardless of the long-term reason.  Bail-out.
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The government bails itself out with the bailout to the industries.
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And who benefited in the long term: What of their shareholders and directors and officers -- what did the war enable them to amass in their heyday, what rolled over happily where.  Are they now part of the 1 percent.
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What happened to these companies with the sudden war contracts, what is the real result of a government "bailout" even where there is the possible urgency of war  -- what else to call it. From the companies' perspectives, a bailout?
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C.  What was a thousand dollars worth then, in today's measure? Which companies then bought others, or were sold to others, at a premium.  Who are the heirs?  Are they mostly our 1% now, the Warbucks generation?  Add Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.  Who is enriched?
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D.  Look up the companies.  Find yours.
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We made a little list:  This is limited, as the article itself is limited, to the New York area, including Connecticut and New Jersey.  From that, we mention only Connecticut companies:
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1.  Bridgeport Thermostat Co., Inc.,  arming wire assemblies.
2.  Bullard Co., turret lathes, see each word defined at http://www.toolingu.com/definition-200160-6586-turret-lathe.html
3.  Colt's Patent Firearms Mfg. Co., gun parts, small arms materiel
4.  Noble and Westbrook Mfg. Co., marking machines
5.  High Standard Mfg. Co., small arms materiel
6. J. L. Lucas and Son, Inc., steel boxes
7.  Torrington Co., surgical needles
8.  Union Hardware Co., rifle cleaning rods
9.  Waterbury Clock Co., assemblies, flare fuses
10. Waterbury Farrel Foundry and Machine Co., assembly machines

What were the other preparations for war being made?  For weapons and the pending wounded: it appears that the decisions had already been made. Only the people were left out of it. Perhaps they would have come on board, with full information.  So why all the secrecy?
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  • NYT lists gauges, cable, thread-cleaning machines and fixtures and scoops, hyraulic press assemblies, drop forgings, see drop forgings at http://www.iqsdirectory.com/forgings/drop-forging/, lab equipment, hospital supplies, job presses, coolers, splint support and foot rests, fuse plunger supports, telescopes, fiber containers, head punches, cleaning brushes, machine-gun covers, lead seals, timing devices and pressure pumps, plywood, compasses, operating gowns, head drills and spindle drills, packing cartons, rifling heads, tachometers, more drop forgings,pinches and guides and plugs and sleeves and pins, starting cranks and coils and solenoids, see solenoids at http://www.ledex.com/basics/basics.html, tank parts, wrench parts and crimping machines, packing containers, tools, steel, nitrocellulose, see nitrocellulose at http://www.answers.com/topic/nitrocellulose, glass tubes and rods, fiber containers, drills and holders and bits, flexible shielded conduits, tools again, protective ointment (for protection against the other side's nitrocellulose or fiery projectiles? see http://worldwar1worldwar2.blogspot.com/view/classic#!/2011/11/history-of-fiery-projectiles-timeline.html), hydraulic presses.
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E.  Define bailout.
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If the government is bailing itself out, it is still a bailout; and needed.  Find a new term. Why the pejorative aura to a bailout that all sides need? It is only a pejorative when profiteering for the few results over the long term. Why allow war profiteering at all? War profiteering leads to actions leading to more wars.
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A bailout is a government contract or payment, either one, for a national long-term purpose, that requires no payback or repayment in the obtaining of the contract or payment. 
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Government contracts that permit profiteering at its expense are bailouts, especially where the company relies on the payout.  It does not need to be "in trouble."
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The April-June 1941 long term interest.  Was the nation still in the Depression, or had we bootstrapped ourselves out of the Depression by magic already?
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F.  The effect of the early, even if prudent, expenditures.
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With those expenditures, six months and more before December 7, 1941, we had to go to war somewhere and the opportunity arose with a bang. Can it be said that the government, in hiring these industries, paying them for things, to do things, was really bailing itself out for its long-term cultural, social and economic survival goals.
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We may not want to see those prudent pre-disaster expenditures also as bailouts, but they serve as such. Now, follow Halliburton, Blackwater.  Expenditures based on national "need" such as anticipated warfare, or services suddenly privatized, are bailouts but for the nation, necessity for long-term survival.  Still a bailout.  Is then an expenditure program for long-term economic survival also not a bail-out at all, but necessary for long-term survival. 
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War profiteering leads to more wars.  So cut it out.  War department contracts before Pearl Harbor were prudent, but also manipulative, and ushered in new eras of war profiteering.
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